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Tuesday, November 04, 2014 1:49:19 PM
llewis
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Is Cheating Getting Worse?

Is Cheating Getting Worse?

Commencement at Harvard. Officials said last month that they were investigating possible cheating on an undergraduate take-home test.Brian Snyder/Reuters Commencement at Harvard. Officials said last month that they were investigating a possible recent study shows that more students are cheating — and that many are cheating not just to survive, but to thrive. What have you observed about cheating at your school? If there seems to be more of it, why do you think that is?

Studies Find More Students Cheating, With High Achievers No Exception
By RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA
Published: September 7, 2012

Studies of student behavior and attitudes show that a majority of students violate standards of academic integrity to some degree, and that high achievers are just as likely to do it as others. Moreover, there is evidence that the problem has worsened over the last few decades.
Experts say the reasons are relatively simple: Cheating has become easier and more widely tolerated, and both schools and parents have failed to give students strong, repetitive messages about what is allowed and what is prohibited.
“I don’t think there’s any question that students have become more competitive, under more pressure, and, as a result, tend to excuse more from themselves and other students, and that’s abetted by the adults around them,” said Donald L. McCabe, a professor at the Rutgers University Business School, and a leading researcher on cheating.
“There have always been struggling students who cheat to survive,” he said. “But more and more, there are students at the top who cheat to thrive.”
Internet access has made cheating easier, enabling students to connect instantly with answers, friends to consult and works to plagiarize. And generations of research has shown that a major factor in unethical behavior is simply how easy or hard it is.
A recent study by Jeffrey A. Roberts and David M. Wasieleski at Duquesne University found that the more online tools college students were allowed to use to complete an assignment, the more likely they were to copy the work of others.
The Internet has changed attitudes, as a world of instant downloading, searching, cutting and pasting has loosened some ideas of ownership and authorship. An increased emphasis on having students work in teams may also have played a role.
“Students are surprisingly unclear about what constitutes plagiarism or cheating,” said Mr. Wasieleski, an associate professor of management.
Howard Gardner, a professor at the Harvard Graduate School of Education, said that over the 20 years he has studied professional and academic integrity, “the ethical muscles have atrophied,” in part because of a culture that exalts success, however it is attained.
He said the attitude he has found among students at elite colleges is: “We want to be famous and successful, we think our colleagues are cutting corners, we’ll be damned if we’ll lose out to them, and some day, when we’ve made it, we’ll be role models. But until then, give us a pass.”
Numerous projects and research studies have shown that frequently reinforcing standards, to both students and teachers, can lessen cheating. But experts say most schools fail to do so.
“Institutions do a poor job of making those boundaries clear and consistent, of educating students about them, of enforcing them, and of giving teachers a clear process to follow through on them,” said Laurie L. Hazard, director of the Academic Center for Excellence at Bryant University. In the programs that colleges run to help new students make the transition from high school, students are counseled on everything from food to friendships, but “little or no time is spent on cheating,” she said.
A 2010 survey of Yale undergraduates by The Yale Daily News showed that most had never read the school’s policy on academic honesty, and most were unsure of the rules on sharing or recycling their work.
In surveys of high school students, the Josephson Institute of Ethics, which advises schools on ethics education, has found that about three-fifths admit to having cheated in the previous year — and about four-fifths say their own ethics are above average.
Few schools “place any meaningful emphasis on integrity, academic or otherwise, and colleges are even more indifferent than high schools,” said Michael Josephson, president of the institute.
“When you start giving take-home exams and telling kids not to talk about it, or you let them carry smartphones into tests, it’s an invitation to cheating,” he said.
The case that Harvard revealed in late August involved a take-home final exam in an undergraduate course with 279 students. The university has not yet held hearings on the charges, which may take months to resolve.
Officials said similarities in test papers suggested that nearly half the class had broken the rules against plagiarism and working together; some of the accused students said their behavior was innocent, or fell into gray areas.
Mr. McCabe’s surveys, conducted around the country, have found that most college students see collaborating with others, even when it is forbidden, as a minor offense or no offense at all. Nearly half take the same view of paraphrasing or copying someone else’s work without attribution. And most high school teachers and college professors surveyed fail to pursue some of the violations they find.
Experts say that along with students, schools and technology, parents are also to blame. They cite surveys, anecdotal impressions and the work of researchers like Jean M. Twenge, author of the book “Generation Me,” to make the case that since the 1960s, parenting has shifted away from emphasizing obedience, honor and respect for authority to promoting children’s happiness while stoking their ambitions for material success.
“We have a culture now where we have real trouble accepting that our kids make mistakes and fail, and when they do, we tend to blame someone else,” said Tricia Bertram Gallant, author of “Creating the Ethical Academy,” and director of the academic integrity office at the University of California at San Diego. “Thirty, 40 years ago, the parent would come in and grab the kid by the ear, yell at him and drag him home.”
Educators tell tales of students who grew up taking for granted not only that their highly involved parents would help with schoolwork but that the “help” would strain the definition of the word.
Ms. Gallant recalled giving integrity counseling to a student who would send research papers to her mother to review before turning them in — and saw nothing wrong in that. One paper, it turned out, her mother had extensively rewritten — and extensively plagiarized.
“I said, ‘So what’s the lesson here?’ ” Ms. Gallant said. “And she said, completely serious, ‘Check the work my mom does?’ ”

Students: Tell me what you have observed about cheating in our school. Do you think there is more of it than ever? If so, why? Do you agree with the expert quoted in this article that “Students are surprisingly unclear about what constitutes plagiarism or cheating”? What or who is to blame? Do you think cheating is always wrong? Why or why not? 
Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:47:18 AM
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I think that cheating in Fort Sumner Schools isn't as bad as it is in bigger schools around us. Cheating does go on, but not constantly. I don't believe that cheating is at an all time high but it is nearly there. If work isn't finished at the time it is due, some kids ask others for their papers to write down the answers real fast. There are times, though, when students do work together and do their own work but the writings are similar. Thus becomes an unfair advantage to the student, because they did their own work but with some help. I agree with the expert that stated, "Students are surprisingly unclear about what constitutes plagiarism or cheating," because we are never given a clear statement on what truly constitutes plagiarism. There is equal blame between the student, teacher, and parent on the rights and wrongs of writing and plagiarizing, but cheating is all blamed on that one student. Cheating is wrong to everybody, yet everyone does it at least once in their lifetime. No one can fully constitute that cheating is always wrong, because they have done it before.  
Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:49:55 PM
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You make some valid points Sierra, but how are students unclear about what constitutes plagiarism or cheating when they are taught from middle school on that to copy someone else's work is unacceptable? Just because we may all have succumbed to the temptations of cheating at one point or another in our life, does not justify its continuance. What do you think?
Friday, November 14, 2014 8:44:50 AM
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Mrs. Lewis- I agree with you. Fort Sumner students know exactly what cheating and plagiarism is and all the forms of it. I'm talking about other schools, where they might not know exactly what it is. 
Friday, November 14, 2014 8:25:42 AM
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Sierra, I must disagree with you. Your statement, "because we are never given a clear statement on what truly constitutes plagiarism" (1) is wrong to me. We were taught what plagiarism is in middle school by none other than Mrs. Lewis herself. So, how were we not given a clear example of what constitutes plagiarism?
Friday, November 14, 2014 8:50:23 AM
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Jenny- Again what I told Mrs. Lewis. Fort Sumner Schools has been taught the exact rules of plagiarism and cheating. Other schools might be different because there are a lot more students to tend to and not all will understand the rules.
Monday, November 17, 2014 8:38:34 PM
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I do not believe that cheating is as bad in our school as it is in other schools. We are a small school, where everyone, for the most part, has grown up together, and teachers, from young ages were able to talk about morals and God. Because teachers have been able to talk to us since we were small we have a good understanding on what is right and wrong in many aspects of life. That doesn't mean that there is no cheating, however. Everyone falls into cheating at one time are another. I disagree with the statement that some students don't understand what is cheating and plagiarism. We have been told for a long time what is cheating, and it just comes to a point where it should be common sense. As to who is to blame, that is a very opinionated question. I believe that if a student is taught by teachers, parents, and friends that cheating is wrong, yet they continue to do it, then they -the student- are to blame. Influential people in the students life have already done all they can do to prevent cheating. Now it's in the hands of the student. 

Friday, November 21, 2014 2:05:18 PM
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Autumn-
You make some great points! What is sad is that students "do" really know what cheating is, we just like to always blame someone else for our short comings. As a teacher and a mother it's just hard to let go and realize that the student is going to make mistakes and misjudgments we just have to let them go and be their own person....especially when you are a control freak such as myself! HA 
Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:39:36 PM
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Sierra-

I respectfully disagree with some of your points, yet agree in others. I agree with you in that it is unfair to the students that worked together and got similar answers. Their teacher might think that they cheated, yet they worked as a team. I agree with the idea that working as a team instead of cheating is not wrong. Also, I agree with the statement “cheating is all blamed on that one student”(1). It is their own choice to do it and they should assume their responsibilities. However, I respectfully disagree with your statement “we are never given a clear statement on what truly constitutes plagiarism”. I believe that every single teacher has at least mentioned it once, whether it was in my school in Mexico or here, Fort Sumner. 

Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:49:10 AM
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Cheating in our school is progressively increasing. With use of snapchat and other technology, students are able to send each other the work. Also, most students in our school give each other their homework to check over or copy. To most students it isn't wrong, so they don't understand what constitutes plagiarism or cheating. In the essay it says, "nearly half the class had broken the rules against plagiarism...some of the accused students said their behavior was innocent" (1). Whenever students believe that their behavior is innocent, there is a problem. Teachers and parents don't stress that cheating is wrong like they used to. That old saying "cheater's never win and winners never cheat" has somehow lost meaning in society. Students who cheat now are only cheating themselves out of a true education and learning experience. Also, cheating is always wrong because at some point you will get caught. Cheating isn't worth the consequences for any student. 
Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:58:32 PM
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Jenny- My questions to you is why don't students believe cheating is wrong? I have never had a candid discussion with my sons about cheating on their homework, but I assume that with a solid Christian foundation in our household they know right from wrong and would certainly understand that cheating is wrong under any circumstance. What do you think?
Friday, November 14, 2014 8:38:49 AM
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Mrs. Lewis- Most students don't believe cheating is wrong because it has become acceptable in a sense. When students cheat off of each other its merely us thinking we are helping each other. Although we know it is morally wrong growing up in a Christian household, we still do it. So, yes in a sense you are correct Mrs. Lewis. A solid Christian foundation should allow your sons to know that cheating is wrong. However, their friends are sometimes more influential than parents. So, students could sway their opinion of what is morally right to what is socially acceptable in order to be accepted by their friends. 
Thursday, November 20, 2014 8:29:34 PM
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Jenny-
    I agree with you one hundred percent in the aspect that with newer advanced technology there are many more ways to cheat, and the students that do cheat are taking advantage of it. Students don't think they'll get caught but usually they aren't very careful and get caught. Cheating is morally wrong but it is socially acceptable and many people get in the habit of doing something socially acceptable and not sticking to their moral guidelines. To a lot of us cheating isn't acceptable in any way so we simply don't cheat.    
     
Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:29:17 PM
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Jenny - 
I completely agree with you. There have been problems with students sending each others work to one another and copying down last minute because of procrastination. Cheating is and always will be wrong. Also, you make a great point when you talked about the quote, "cheaters never win and winners never cheat." Students do not really realize what the consequences may in the long run after cheating.

Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:53:23 AM
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Honestly, cheating will always be wrong no matter what. Will cheating ever stop? Probably not, only because cheating allows people to get their work done and it will be right. Everyone cheats, its a part of our daily habits. I'm pretty sure half this world has cheated to get to where they are. Cheating may seem easier sometimes, but it's wrong regardless if it's just a couple of  problems, you still cheated and wrote down word for word from another persons paper. This article says that parents are to blame, parents are kinda to blame for us kids cheating, because now a days parents don't sit down with us kids and tell us do not cheat they just assume we know not to cheat. Bottom line cheating is wrong and hopefully one day cheating will be put to a stop.
Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:10:14 PM
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Oriana-You make some good points, but I want you to ponder this....How do students know if they cheat off of someone that they will automatically get it right?  Cheating is not a part of my daily habits and wasn't when I was a student....I'm not saying that I have never cheated in my entire life, but it was definitely not a habit. Maybe you are right that parents assume too much. I just feel as a parent that I shouldn't have to tell my kids not to cheat....I guess I may need to have this discussion. What do you think?
Monday, November 17, 2014 11:59:19 AM
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 Mrs. Lewis- 

I think these kids of our generation are lazy and like to take the easy way out like I said before. Parents these days assume too much and when their kid does something bad they like to blame themselves for their kids actions. And honestly it shouldn't be that way, that kid chose to do the wrong thing. They knew it was wrong before they did it, and that's the sad part is that they knew.  I feel like even if parents have more talks with their kids about whats right and wrong, they will still do what they want at the end of day. They will soon learn, we all will learn , that doing the wrong thing is not always good. Something will come along and make us realize that cheating or lying is wrong and hopefully we will learn our lesson and not do it again. But as it being parents fault that their kids are doing wrong I strongly disagree with that, and YOU as a parent Mrs. Lewis should be proud and keep doing what your doing because you're doing just fine as a parent. 
  
Friday, November 14, 2014 8:23:16 AM
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Oriana-I agree to every word you say. Parents are part of the problem when it comes to cheating. The only real talk i had about cheating was in 3rd grade, when i copied off someones test because i didn't want to study the day before. So parents are the ones who have the responsibility when it comes to talking about cheating. And if you cheat, you're still not learning how to do the problem, you're just digging yourself into a deeper hole.
Friday, November 21, 2014 8:50:43 AM
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Andres- 
  Because of there way this world is set up, it seems like no matter what parents do their kids will do what they want at the end of the day. Honestly it's just really sad how us as kids don't listen to our parents, I mean our parents have been there done that they'er not telling us just to tell us. They are telling us for a reason. I feel like we should cut some parents some slack because they try their best to be the best parents they can be. 
Friday, November 21, 2014 4:31:03 PM
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Oriana-
i agree with your comment that cheating is just a bad habit that students have. Even if you think it's good you do it anyways just so you could get a good grade on an assignment you didn't understand or keep yourself from getting a zero. But in the end cheating really doesn't get you anywhere...
Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:54:29 AM
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In our classes I have found that cheating is not a large factor. For the simple matter that we collaborate over questions openly with our teachers, and that there is no real reason to cheat when our teachers help us with most questions in class. Whereas plagiarism could be a real concern with our society today "students are surprisingly unclear about what constitutes plagiarism or cheating,"Mr Wasieleski , I do find that it's enticing to steal precomposed text without citing sources. Simply because most students like myself find it hard or don't know how to cite evidence correctly. But sometimes adversity gets the best of us, we do copy and take whats not ours as school becomes harder it becomes easier to take and cheat. "Ms.Gallant recalled  giving integrity counseling to a student who would send research papers to her mother to review before turning them in- and saw nothing wrong in that.", this seems easy enough to do send the paper to your mom or someones else to check over it and then fix it. So in conclusion I do believe that cheating has gotten worse in certain instances not just as a whole, in the fact that technology does offer and easy way to cheat and proposes an easy solution.
Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:28:38 PM
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LT-I do agree that as teachers we "spoon feed" too much to our students.  Why do you think it is enticing to steal text without citing the sources? Is this just for the sheer ease of not having to take the time to cite the text? How could a student not know how to cite text correctly when they have been given a typed resource that shows them exactly how to cite text correctly. Also, they have a Writer's Reference book in the classroom that they can look at anytime they like. In closing, I do agree with you on the point that technology has made cheating easier and therefore more tempting. Didn't mean to scold you so much on citing text, and I still love ya LT...I just want to challenge your thinking....So, what do you think?
Friday, November 14, 2014 8:33:41 AM
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llewis- I believe it is just the "sheer ease" as you put it, it makes a students text look more educated if it looks like they said and they didn't just type it into Google,click copy and paste it.Thus there paper can vie and stand out from their peers. Dont you agree that when you see highly intellectual diction it makes that paper stand out from the rest? Food for thought! 
Friday, November 21, 2014 8:46:00 AM
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L.t-
   I agree with every word you said, you really make some good points. Our classes is probably one of the most hard working classes in our high school, I'm not saying that because I'm in this class but because I know how competitive our class is. We are always working so hard to be the best and we really don't think about cheating, we only want to be the best. As for the teachers always helping us whenever we don't understand an assignment is a great thing that prevents us from cheating. We have amazing teaches who want us to try our best and not take the easy way out, the challenge us to do the right thing. You made some great point L.t.   
Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:58:45 AM
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 From my experiences I have noticed cheating is a common practice in most schools. I believe that students don't understand what constitutes as cheating. If a parent or any influential adult has a conversation explaining what is ethically wrong about cheating, it might change their views. In this article it states that internet has made cheating easier and more convenient. When a student doesn't want to do their homework all they have to do is ask Google.  
Thursday, November 13, 2014 3:47:39 PM
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Oh Kyle you are so right! So, let me get this straight....if I have a conversation with all of my students about what constitutes cheating, they will understand what is morally wrong about it, and change their unethical ways? I will get on that tomorrow! What do you think?
Monday, November 17, 2014 2:19:48 PM
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Mrs. Lewis- 
I believe that if you if talked with students during a class discussion or even individually it would help to clear the air on what exactly the issue is. I am not saying that cheating will come to an halting end but I do believe that those who are ignorant would greatly benefit from it. 
Monday, November 17, 2014 8:35:32 PM
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Kyle-
I do not think that a class discussion will "clear the air", as you say. Not completely. I believe that there will always be ways of "cheating" that some teachers will not be able to detect, and therefore will not be able to address. I agree with you that cheating will never come to a halt. However, most teachers that do address cheating, address the forms that have always been addressed.Thus, there are no ignorant students.
Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:03:38 AM
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     Cheating usually takes place in groups. It usually isn't just one person anymore, it is a group effort. Two or three friends get together, do the work until it is right ,then they all write down the same answer. Causing teachers to believe the students cheated when they did it as group work; instead of doing it on their own.  The students do not believe they are cheating so they justify it in their minds that it is ok. Causing cheating to become a more common event. Some of the problems in learning is that the students do not understand. They do not know what constitutes as plagiarism or cheating to the students it is just a gray area. Cheating is cheating their is no gray area. Teachers, parents,  and students are to blame, some were along the line when the student started cheating someone should of intervened. Someone worked hard to get the answer and for you to just cheat or plagiarize is just like stealing. Cheating and plagiarism should be punished accordingly. This, in the long run will help students be more productive and proud of their work. It will also teach them time management, and  to get their work done on time. 
Thursday, November 13, 2014 3:53:31 PM
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Tyler- So my question to you is this....How is the teacher ever suppose to know what the actual "student" knows if every assignment they do is in a group when it was meant to be done solo? Based on the answers of the Junior Class in this discussion, I am beginning to believe that students must really not know what cheating is....? Strange to me, but a valid point nonetheless. You do make an interesting point at the end of your discussion where you bring up the topic of time management, because I believe this is a core issue as well. What do you think?
Friday, November 14, 2014 8:46:17 AM
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  Mrs. Lewis
    If the teacher wants to know what the students know, then give them work. Let them work together if they want. Then give them tests to see if they know the information or not. If they keep getting bad test grades but good homework grades look and compare their homework. If they are almost exactly the same you can build your case on the student cheating. Then have a parent teacher conference and snuff the cheating problem out. The conference will either bring the problem up and stop it before it starts, or it will catch the student red handed and stop the problem that way.
Friday, November 14, 2014 8:58:39 AM
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Tyler-
Excellent points...I have nothing more to say!
Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:06:00 AM
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I observed cheating in our school, and yes there is more cheating because in our day, we are more advanced in technology. So people use there phones for cheating and have apps that make it easier to send pictures. They take the credit they don't deserve and some teachers don't know people have cheated. Students are unsure about plagiarism, because when you cheat off of someone else's paper that is considered plagiarism and the person who cheated doesn't even have the sense to know he did it. The person to blame is the person that has cheated, they should have the common sense or be smart enough to do their own work by themselves. Yes, I think cheating is wrong. If you need help with a question go ask the teacher, don't copy someone and never learn the actual problem. I say give the students the discredit they deserve. At the Josephson Institute of Ethics, which advises the education of ethics, found out that three fifths of the students had admitted to cheating the previous year. quoted by Michael Josephson, " when you start giving take-home exams and telling kids not to talk about it, or you let them carry smartphones into tests, it's an invitation to cheating." That shows that kids are incapable to work the lesson by themselves and need technology or other people to rely on.
Thursday, November 13, 2014 3:56:30 PM
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Andres-
What if the person who has the paper just doesn't "share" with the student who is wanting to copy their work? What if we stand up for what is right and just and moral? What do you think?
Friday, November 14, 2014 8:39:35 AM
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Mrs. Lewis-The right thing is to stand up and tell the teacher if someone is cheating off you. When the person who caught or is snitched on for cheating, the teachers will be more cautious and aware of the surroundings of the class. So the cheating person will be more watched by the teachers and his/hers classmates. the moral of the person will be low and he/she will not be trusted by the people they sit by in class.
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   Andres
    - What if someone doesn't share their paper with the kids trying to cheat? Will they be bullied or shunned? In my mind this is a double edged sword. There is no way to win, people will always cheat and find a way not to get caught. Also the kids that try to do the right thing will be bullied or shunned for not "helping a friend out". Which leads to more problems. The problems will go round and round; students cheat or get bullied, teachers have kids cheating or failing with parents angry at them, parents are mad because their child isn't doing well or is in trouble for cheating. In addition to all these problems technology and phones have been an issue for a while which is another problem teachers have to wage war on. Everyone wants to blame the teachers and parents when the kid just plays dumb. When the student really knows exactly what he is doing. In my mind this is a lose lose situation.
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I think that cheating has always been present and will continue to be. Do I think there is more of it than ever before? No, there's just easier access to cheat or plagiarize. I do not agree with the quote "Students are surprisingly unclear about what constitutes plagiarism or cheating" because I feel like that's an excuse for why some kids cheat. The blame is on children who cheat. Cheating is always wrong, but it will continue to happen. It's wrong because it't stressed to us how wrong cheating is and saying that it's okay is just contradicting what we'rte taught. 
Friday, November 14, 2014 8:52:28 AM
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Kayla-
The quote "Students are surprisingly unclear about what constitutes plagiarism or cheating" this can not be used as an excuse on part of the students. They do know what is cheating and what is not cheating. The blame can be put in two places, on part of the parents and on part of the easy access there is the new resources there is out there to be able to cheat.  
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Cheating in this school I believe is present, and can present a problem at times. Do I think there is more of it today then ever before? No, it has just become much easier to access those resources to cheat from. For example the internet is a place where students can look up almost anything and pull from there so they don't have to do the work. “Students are surprisingly unclear about what constitutes plagiarism or cheating,” said Mr. Wasieleski, an associate professor of management. Mr. Wasieleski stated this to prove a point and I personally agree with this point. Also I agree that this is partially the parents fault. But also the other hand the other half of the blame can be put on the on the easy access there is to the internet and other sources to be able to cheat. Cheating defiantly is not the right thing to do because in the end the person cheating only hurts himself or herself.   
Friday, November 14, 2014 8:51:58 AM
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Teddy- 
I respectfully disagree with your statement because I have to reply to someones post. I "disagree" with you blaming the parents. It is constantly told to kids how cheating is wrong. They do it to themselves, therefore, it's their fault. However, I agree with cheating only hurts the person doing it
Friday, November 14, 2014 9:05:36 AM
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Rhett-
Great points! I do agree with you that cheating may not be worse, just a steady problem that has always been in existence.  Today's access to greater technology does contribute to this issue and just makes it more tempting for students to "do" the wrong thing.
Friday, November 14, 2014 8:45:00 AM
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Re: Is Cheating Getting Worse? (10)

I have observed cheating before, I think we all have. I think this is not always a bad thing when the proper help is given with it. Students need to understand that when they are copying they are trusting whatever the person has written down and that leaves with a chance of getting it wrong. I do not agree with the fact that it is getting worse. I think it is staying at a steady rate. In saying that I believe cheating has gotten easier. With everyone being able to send pictures it makes thing easier doesn't mean that it is escalating. No is it cheating if your helping someone figure out an answer that you already but you are making sure they know the steps to finding the answer. 
Friday, November 14, 2014 8:57:07 AM
llewis
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Raymond-
How can cheating ever be a good thing? I do agree with you that maybe it hasn't gotten worse and it has just steadily stayed the same.  The part that worries me as an educator and a mother is that cheating should "never" be ok. Somehow in today's world we have begun to blur those lines between right and wrong...and as they say, if we don't stand for something, we will fall for anything. What do you think?
Monday, November 17, 2014 11:59:24 AM
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Mrs. Lewis- Cheating is not the word I meant to say maybe look and learn type of method where you show people what you did and they use that problem you did so that they have an example to follow instead of being in the dark and having to copy a whole assignment.
Monday, November 17, 2014 2:09:21 PM
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Raymond-

I agree with what your saying. I think cheating and asking a peer for help sometimes get misinterpreted. I would rather have the option to ask a student to show me the steps he took, rather then fail an assignment. Also, its much easier to ask a student, because obviously i didn't understand it in class, so its easier to get a different view on how to solve it. 
Friday, November 14, 2014 8:54:24 AM
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Re: Is Cheating Getting Worse? (12)

In response to the article, Is Cheating Getting Worse?, there are very few chances to plagiarism in Fort Sumner, New Mexico schools than there is Albuquerque Schools. I have observed plagiarizing in my school, but nothing too serious. Smaller schools tend to have more morals and ethics than bigger schools, but there is just as much of a chance than there is in big schools than there are in smaller schools. Yes, I do agree with some of the experts quote. Some students are surprisingly unclear about what constitutes plagiarism or cheating and who is to blame? In my opinion, it is parents who is to blame for because they're not completely making things clear with their children about the consequences for cheating.  Yes, I think cheating is always wrong no matter what. And if you are to plagiarize, at least quote and cite where you got it and not make yourself look like a complete fool.
Friday, November 14, 2014 5:21:08 PM
llewis
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Alexis-
Thank goodness we go to a small school where morals still stand firm. I am still having a problem believing that students are somehow unclear about plagiarism or cheating for that matter. Maybe I am assuming too much. I am assuming that students just come to me knowing this information. Knowing right from wrong. Whoa,  I guess I need to wake up and get with the program and educate my kids on this pressing issue.
Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:36:00 PM
alexis.reyes
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Mrs. Lewis, i agree with you that students are unclear about plagiarism and cheating. Assuming isn't so bad if it's for your own children and students sake. 
Monday, November 17, 2014 2:01:22 PM
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Re: Is Cheating Getting Worse? (13)

We live in a society where cheating is accepted on a daily basis. Yet, we are from small town, middle of nowhere New Mexico, where cheating isn't as prevalent as in bigger city high schools. Growing up in the age and era that we live in, yes there is more cheating than say in the 90's. Our society allows cheating, for multiple reasons. From looking cool for your so called "friends," to simply not doing your homework. I know as a student athlete, who shows, participates in FFA, NHS, and other programs, i sometimes find myself stretched for time, but i manage to complete my work. Cheating is a problem for inner city schools, due to the lack of ethics, morals, values, and parenting. I'm not saying you have to have the worlds number 1 parents, but a little guidance along your adolescent years can sure be helpful.On the other hand, you should want to better yourself. My parents work for what they have, but i still have a desire to be better than them someday.  I personally don't think cheating is acceptable, but i do think that if your struggling on a problem and someone else has figured it out, then you shouldn't be punished for looking at their paper to understand the necessary steps to take. 
Monday, November 17, 2014 2:14:12 PM
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Re: Re: Is Cheating Getting Worse? (13)

Kylie-
I agree with you wholeheartedly! The points you make in your response are right on track with my feelings.  It just saddens me to think it's getting worse, because it seemed to be bad enough in my day. I do believe that it is a shame that students don't have enough self-worth to "really" know that cheating is an unacceptable practice.  Helping a student when they are struggling is a whole different aspect. I just had an "ah ha" moment...maybe as teachers, we should spend a little time, teaching students how to appropriately help other students when they need help. Something to think about.
Monday, November 17, 2014 8:41:19 PM
allison.wilton
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Mrs. Lewis,
I disagree with your point that cheating is getting worse. I just think that teachers and professors have better means of detecting it. I know that as a student, I have been called upon to "teach" other students. On the other hand, I have also been reprimanded for not "teaching" well enough. A question can only be asked so many times before it loses its validity. For that reason, I find myself simply giving the answers, and not taking the time to explain them. Yes, I was wrong in doing that, but I also believe that some students take the easy way out, and do not try to learn for themselves and teach themselves a brain link, but rather depend upon others to "teach" it to them.
Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:24:49 PM
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Mrs. Lewis-
I understand that teachers have a very busy life, as do students. Sometimes the terms cheating and simply showing how to do a problem get very misinterpreted. Maybe teachers could take a little time to further explain what they decide is cheating and what isn't. Our class isn't prone to cheating, but we are here to offer help, especially since we all understand the struggle of being an ideal teenager in today's society. Food for thought.
Monday, November 17, 2014 2:08:51 PM
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Re: Is Cheating Getting Worse? (14)

  I believe that cheating is getting worse. Over time, cheating has become tolerated and ignored. Kids as well as adults also cheat because the consequences are not severe enough for them to put effort into their work. "cheating has become easier and more widely tolerated," as stated in the article. There isn't as much cheating in certain schools, such as mine, as there is in bigger schools. I think this is because in smaller schools, more attention is individually given to each student. Where as in larger schools, you're lucky if the teacher even knows your name. With more attention from teachers, there's no need to cheat, and its easy for students to get help on something they don't understand. I believe that cheating is always wrong because its a form of lying, not only to your teachers and parents, but also to yourself.

Monday, November 17, 2014 2:18:23 PM
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Paris-
You make some really great points! Cheating has become more tolerated and that is a shame. If teachers or parents are tolerating it more..."shame on them". I do believe that in smaller schools students really have no reason to cheat, because the teacher/student ratio is smaller and the student has every opportunity to come to the teacher for help.
Monday, November 17, 2014 6:22:28 PM
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Re: Is Cheating Getting Worse? (15)

Ms. Lewis
I can only speak for what I know and what I've seen. I have witnessed people cheating in both schools that I've attended; both being small. I definitely believe that cheating is wrong no matter what the circumstance is and that it has increased over time. Often students use the excuse “I didn’t understood it” or “I didn’t had time” to justify their actions. In both situations, the student placed himself or herself in that position. Therefore is their responsibility to get their obligations done. I believe it has increased over time because of technology. Parents and teachers may still disapprove it but students have the access to find quick answers. Also, I disagree with the quote “Students are surprisingly unclear about what constitutes plagiarism or cheating”. I am sure that every teacher has told his or her class about plagiarism or cheating at least once. Otherwise, why when a sixth grader is asked about cheating homework, act surprised and deny it right away? The answer is because they are conscious that what they are doing is wrong. I believe both participants of cheating are the once to blame. Once again, I believe cheating is always wrong. It is even on the Bible. There are multiple verses scolding lying and stealing. For example, Deuteronomy 5:19 says “Neither shalt thou steal”, Ephesians 4:25 “Wherefore putting away lying…”, and many others in the books of Proverbs, James, Galatians, Colossians, etc. By being a Christian since an early age, I know that cheating is wrong, but as any other students, I’ve fallen into the temptation of doing it. 

Tuesday, November 18, 2014 3:05:17 PM
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Claudia-
You make some excellent points, and I agree with you totally. I don't really have any objection to what you have stated. Well-written.
Instead of responding to me please respond to two other students!
Great Job!
Monday, November 17, 2014 8:19:23 PM
allison.wilton
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Re: Is Cheating Getting Worse? (17)

On the subject of cheating, I have a question. What is constituted as cheating? Is it just copying off of someone else's test, or could one say that sharing answers with a peer is cheating? I know, as a student, I have a habit of rationalizing my "cheating" by saying, "Well once I get the answer, I'll understand." I think all students do. For this simple reason, I do think that cheating is more abundant. This generation has gained the ability to explain away their mistakes and pitfalls. 
Furthermore, I agree with the quote that "Students are surprisingly unclear about what constitutes plagiarism or cheating." Upon proofreading both papers of my peers and myself, I find that we can not all agree on a certain way to cite a source, and thus, although by accident, we plagiarize. I do not believe that this is because of a lack of quality in teaching, but that we simply have not had to learn it yet. 
Integrity never goes out of style. For that simple reason, I believe that blatant cheating is wrong, whether we can excuse it or not. Receiving answers with no learning or work can not substitute for the understanding that one can achieve through their own problem-solving.
Tuesday, November 18, 2014 3:11:23 PM
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Re: Re: Is Cheating Getting Worse? (17)

Allison-
When I am referring to the blurred lines of understanding plagiarism, I am not talking about the student who makes a mistake and cites their quote wrong.  I believe the article is about students who copies significant amounts of someone else's work and pastes that in to their paper without giving  proper credit.
As for students "rationalizing" their cheating, I agree with you wholeheartedly! I believe students and adults can always find a way to justify wrong doings. There in lies the problem....
Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:03:30 AM
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Allison, 
I like how you ask what exactly is cheating. In pre-cal we have a solutions manual that we use to check our answers. If there is a problem that I am not sure how to do I will look and see the steps that the manual has so I can do the next problem right. I wouldn't consider this cheating but I know that many people would. 
I do disagree with you, however, when you say that not all students understand what plagiarism or cheating is. We are already juniors in high school and have had to do multiple research papers at this point. We should all understand what plagiarism and cheating is. Yes, some peers might disagree on how to cite certain things but this does not mean that they are both the correct ways. 
You're right, integrity never goes out of style, and yes cheating is wrong. People make all kinds of excuses for it but it's simply wrong. When someone cheats they are not learning the material and it will hurt them later on in life. 
Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:12:00 PM
llewis
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Autumn-
I don't believe that your pre-cal situation is an example of cheating. When a student gets in to higher level course work it is understood that they are mature enough to know that ultimately they are responsible for their own independent learning. Great Example!
Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:25:20 AM
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Mrs Lewis,
I don't understand why people think this situation is cheating. Students in high school don't understand that when you get in college you could buy a solutions manual for practically anything and just copy all the homework down. However, in college homework doesn't really matter, all the weight is on the tests. I believe that students need to learn how to use a solutions manual to help them learn and understand things, not just copy the work down. 
Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:18:51 PM
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Re: Is Cheating Getting Worse? (16)

Cheating in society can be viewed as a horrible thing to do, except we do not live the perfect world.
For example if we lived in the biblical garden of Eden, then their would be trust and cheating wouldn't be allowed. However, we live in a world that people cheat to get by or pass the things we don't care enough to learn. I've viewed cheating in my life. Sometimes it was for the greater good and others just because they want to succeed at something with out the lesson. I can't sit here and say I know what everybody thinks about when cheating. But you don't have to be really smart to see that more people are doing it now-a-day's only to pass at what they think they can't do. Myself out of trillions of people can only say in my opinion that yourself should be the one to blame rather the teachers or anything else. It's your choice to learn it or not. So in all I would have to disagree with the expert only because our society isn't perfect. We make our own choices. That's why we live in the home of the free. To make the choices we do!

                                                                                                         -Lewis 
Tuesday, November 18, 2014 3:23:01 PM
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Chris-
In my opinion, cheating is never for, as you state, "the greater good." Yes, I agree that the world is not perfect, but as citizens of this great nation we are to uphold what is good and honest. Not only because it is what our country is founded on, but what for me is biblical.  Yes, everyone at some given point in their life has probably cheated, but that doesn't mean it's a consistent practice in their life. The reason we live as you state "in the home of the free" is because those men and women stood for something, they upheld morals and values that were intended to be passed down thrrough generations. It is our job to continue what they started. If we don't, what shall we become as a nation? 
Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:15:52 PM
claudia.ramirez
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Chris-

I respectfully disagree with some of you points. First of all, cheating is not a matter of trust, as you implicitly state “then their would be trust and cheating wouldn’t be allowed”(1). For me, cheating is copying someone’s work for your own benefit. Secondly, I don’t know how cheating is “for the greater good” (1). When someone cheats, they are “doing the work” without really knowing or learning the lesson, so how does that helps the individual? It may help at the time, later on, they will get “hurt”. Finally, I agree with your statement “in my opinion that yourself should be the one to blame rather the teachers or anything else. It’s your choice to learn in or not.”

Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:42:36 PM
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Sierra-

I respectfully disagree with some of your points, yet agree in others. I agree with you in that it is unfair to the students that worked together and got similar answers. Their teacher might think that they cheated, yet they worked as a team. I agree with the idea that working as a team instead of cheating is not wrong. Also, I agree with the statement “cheating is all blamed on that one student”(1). It is their own choice to do it and they should assume their responsibilities. However, I respectfully disagree with your statement “we are never given a clear statement on what truly constitutes plagiarism”. I believe that every single teacher has at least mentioned it once, whether it was in my school in Mexico or here, Fort Sumner. 

Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:16:46 AM
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Re: Is Cheating Getting Worse? (18)

Cheating in our school is probably worse now than ever before. It is worse, because there are so many extracurricular  activities students are involved in that they focus less of their time on actually doing their own work and they set aside their academics to use their time on the "fun" times instead. I agree that students are unclear about what constitute plagiarism or cheating. Students don't understand the true consequences of plagiarism or cheating, because the teachers and professors don't enforce the rules as harsh anymore. You can blame both students and teachers for not being responsible on their part. I don't think cheating is always wrong, because in some instances the teachers allow students to do work in groups which shouldn't be considered cheating. 
Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:21:26 PM
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Kurstin-
Oh so true....I do believe that students are definitely busier these days, but that is certainty no excuse to cheat. I would hope that "most" athletes realize that their academic careers will far outlast their athletic careers. However, I am going to have to disagree with you on the point that students do not understand the repercussions that exist when a student plagiarizes a paper or cheats on a test. I will take this opportunity and clarify it for my classes...
1.)If a student is caught plagiarizing their work, and I catch them, they will receive a 0 on their paper and their parents will be called to explain the situation.
2.) If a student gets caught cheating on an assignment, refer to Rule #1.
Love ya, Kurstin
Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:55:09 PM
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Mrs. Lewis-
I absolutely agree that just because we are busier it doesn't give us an excuse to cheat! Thank you clarifying the consequences. In my last response I said that most students didn't know the repercussions, but I mislead you by saying that. My point was, we don't understand the severity of them. We think that we can blow it off and not worry about it when in all actuality the consequences are far worse than what we expect.
Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:18:53 PM
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Re: Is Cheating Getting Worse? (19)

 Mrs. Lewis -
      From what i have seen in Fort Sumner Schools there hasn't been a lot of cheating as most would say or think. From my experience there is more cheating in bigger schools than smaller schools. I am not saying we dont have any cheating going on, what I'm saying is that we are not as bad as people think. I think the reason most students here cheat is due to the fact that they are lazy, and dont like doing their own work. I believe that we are all capable of doing our own work and are smart enough to get it done, its just most just choose not to. Other times when you do find cheating here is when we honestly do not get something that a teacher assigns us, and we use someone elses paper rather than asking for help. I do not agree with the quote "Students are surprisingly unclear about what constitutes plagiarism or cheating", beacuse we were all taught what that meant by you, and the big problems we can all get into for doing it. Yes i do think cheating is wrong and we should stop doing it, because if we spend our times cheating the only truth is that we are only cheating ourselves, and we won't learn how to do things on our own.












Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:26:08 PM
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Rose-
I think your comments are right on! I believe that the "lazy" factor or the "too busy" factor is why students end up cheating most of the time. I just wish that if a student didn't understand their work they would just come to me and let me explain it to them again.
Friday, November 21, 2014 11:50:50 AM
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Mrs. Lewis- 
    I think that the main reason as to why students don't go ask you to "re-explain" things, is that we as students do not want others to call us "dumb",  "stupid" or other names that we tend to hear a lot. It's more of a "lets get this done already" deal that we do. I think that if at the end of the class period you should ask us if we got the lesson, and when someone says yes ask them to explain to you, therefor you know we got it and you wouldn't have to worry about cheating.
Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:19:46 PM
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Rose
I agree with you that Fort Sumner does have cheating going on, but it’s not as bad as in bigger schools and that people should ask for help when they need it, not just copying from someone else's work just so they get a good grade. On the other hand I do have to disagree with you that students don’t know what cheating is because they do and should do their own work because whether or not they think their smart they are they just have to believe in themselves. I also agree with you on that we are cheating ourselves and that we won’t learn how to do things on our own and we keep saying we want to do things on our own and yet we don’t do our own homework. How does that seem fair? We don’t do our own work but we want to do things on our own. What do you think?

Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:10:47 PM
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Mrs.Lewis
I've been to many different schools and even been home schooled and I saw people cheating everywhere I went. I don’t believe that students misunderstand what cheating is or plagiarism is because we’ve all been sat down and talked to at one point in our lives by our parents, or teachers about what they are and why they are wrong. The parents are partially to blame for not continuing the lesson on cheating because most teenagers listen but not really it just goes in one ear and out the other but the internet is also to blame because if they don’t want to figure out the answers on their homework they can just look up a website that would give them the answers. In fort Sumner I have seen people copy answers from another person’s homework just because they didn’t want to do it the night before but I don’t think that cheating is as bad as it is in bigger schools and online homeschooling because in fort Sumner we have smaller school so the students can get more help and one on one time with the teachers to get help on something they don’t understand. Whereas in bigger schools they have more students and fewer teachers so they can’t get as much help on things they don’t understand but I still think it’s wrong whether you’re in a big school, small school, or home schooled.

Friday, November 21, 2014 8:54:59 AM
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Kesha-
I agree that the message we preach probably goes in one ear and out the other, and that is why we continue to have a problem in this area. Do you think if students weren't so busy and had more time to do their work, it would help with them not feeling the need to cheat so much?
Friday, November 21, 2014 11:55:48 AM
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Mrs.Lewis
I think that if students had more time then they would do their own work and not have the feelings of having to cheat. Cheating wont go away all at one time but it would probably lessen to where we wouldn’t have it as often, but if the teachers and parents kept the discussion on cheating open and continued talking about the reasons why it wrong and what would happen if they did it. Like the punishments getting worse and worse each time then maybe one day cheating wont be a problem in schools, or colleges.

Friday, November 21, 2014 11:59:24 AM
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Kesha-
   I agree with the quote "it goes in one ear and out the other", because as a teen I know how that goes. Also I think that people can honestly do there work if they wanted to because like I said everyone is capable of doing their own work. When you said that cheating isn't as bad here as in bigger schools is on point, because yes there are more teachers and more students in bigger schools than there are in little schools, and teachers in bigger schools don't tend to pay attention to the students and what they are doing as the teachers here do. Do you think that if we were to spend more time  studying and taking more notes in class would help the students understand more and help the cheating?

 ~Rose Garza~
Friday, November 21, 2014 8:52:10 AM
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 Kyle-
 I respectfully disagree with you. I feel like students know exactly what they're supposed to do, but they cheat out of pure laziness. Google in an excuse for kids to escape thinking and putting effort into their work. It has become harder for teachers to see their student's true potential.
Friday, November 21, 2014 9:01:14 AM
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By taking a step back and observing my school, I have seen that cheating is actually quite prominent. You wouldn't think that in a small school that cheating would be as big of a deal as it is. well, at least I did. After seeing this it really makes me wonder, do the teachers know how much this is going on in their class rooms? Cheating is getting out of hand. First, it starts off as just wanting to know what you got on the last four questions of homework. Then, it goes to being you want to know what they got on their last four test questions. Kids do not realize how greatly this is actually impacting their lives. If kids continue to just cheat and get the answers from others in the end they will not know what they are doping and therefore, they will not succeed in life.
I think the reason why kids are so unclear as to what cheating and plagiarism are, is due to the lack of discipline from teachers. If teachers would put a smack down on the cheating and plagiarism as soon as it occurs, students would understand that what they are doing is wrong. I mean yes teachers do have discussions with us, but sometimes just talking about an issue is not enough. Sometimes a real disciplinary action is what a kid needs to snap them out of this state of mind.
Regardless if the teachers do this or not, cheating is always wrong and it always will be. I fell this way because I feel that if you can't do it yourself than you need to learn how to. Do not depend on others to get your work done, as well as their own.
Friday, November 21, 2014 4:27:20 PM
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Re: Is Cheating Getting Worse? (23)

I believe that cheating in our school is occurring. But I also believe that cheating in our school compared to cheating in bigger schools is not that big of an issue. In bigger schools which have more students, they may think they can get away with cheating because they barley communicate with their teachers. Some students may not know what the true meaning of cheating or plagerism is, some think that you can copy something and it won't mean anything. For example when you type a paper and you use someone else's words or phrases you have to give them the credit. Just like cheating off of someone's paper, your not actually doing your own work your using someone else's.
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Re: Re: Is Cheating Getting Worse? (23)

Mariah-
    I respectfully disagree with your statement. I know it may seem like in bigger schools there is more cheating, but in reality this is wrong. Cheating is very prominent in our school. How many students do you know that get out of math and immediately ask, "Hey how do you do #7 I had no idea how to figure it out?" This is still considered cheating, because you are getting the other persons knowledge to do good on your test.